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July 29, 2012


meir zev

"I think we can all agree that the amount of material in every daf is too great to retain for an investment of one hour a day."

Your suggestions are excellent but they suffer from the same defect.

How do you expect someone to first learn the daf and then jump through the hoops necessary to retain a basic grasp of it in one one hour?

Rabbi Pogrow's system(mastertorah.com)calls for something like a two and half hour per day commitment for an amud a day to nail down the give and take flow of the Gemara without learning Rashi and Tosfos inside.

Irrespective of whether or not one agrees with his method, anything else with its goal as retention will take even longer.


I clarify.

For those who on the contribute an hour a day, there are two parameters, one from the teacher and one from the student.

The teacher needs to be focused on the method and approach of transmitting the information that is formatted for retention and in a way that serves one of the three goals, which everyone he or the group selects.

The student needs to internalize the goal and learn with the focus on this goal. I agree that the earnings the Daf the 'old' way and then going back to refocus once learning is not particularly practical. However learning it the first time with that focus, for example, taken a few seconds repeating the references from Masores Hashas under your breath, or briefly reviewing the schema of the sugya, will be productive. The standard approach of just reading is not very productive. It is much better to be an active learner who knows what he wants to draw out and to retain and what can be left to passive absorption. If you know what you want to retain and what kind of information is most important to you, you will more be more likely to retain it, especially if you actively review it as you learn it. IT works much better than approaching everything on the page in an amorphous and unfocused manner.


See interesting proposals for tweaking Daf Yomi, by Rabbi Yair Hoffman, at http://5tjt.com/tweaking-the-daf-a-day-model/

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