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November 09, 2008

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yitz..

i'm sorry if i'm in an overtly devil's advocate mode right now, but when i boil down the point i'm left with:

"at the very moment of any breaking, HaShem is already sewing the fixings of it."

which in the talmud would be rendered: HaShem always brings the trufah before the makah.

but doesn't this trivialize the idea of moshiach into just a solution to a created problem -- ie. if the problem never came to be, so to the moshiach would never be?

Are you implying that all of the dis-harmony was intentional for the purpose of arriving at moshiach -- that every seeming breaking in history was an intentional step on the path to Moshiach? Or that, as I said, Moshiach is simply a cure to the problem introduced when kayin violated the brotherly bond and traumatized the human race?

avakesh

It is incorrect to think of tikkun as a mere return to how things were in the beginning. Instead, once the vesssels broke, the reshimu, trace of their breaking will always remain, at the very least by the virtue of them having once having been broken. With Tikkun comes restoration but not return. In other words, what is different is that after the Tikkun harmony is reached through bringing together of disparate voices rather than by playing one tune in one voice.

Jon Saboe

Avakesh is correct. Indeed, the entire message of Torah is restoration and redemption.

Hashem takes broken pieces and mends them into something different from (and even better than) the original—-but there is always an indication or hint that something WAS broken to remind us that Hashem is the one restores and redeems.

Joel 2: 25-27: "And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpillar, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you. And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed. And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed."

"For I know that my Redeemer liveth, and that He shall stand at the latter day upon the earth. And though worms destroy this body, yet IN MY FLESH shall I see God: Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another." Job 9: 25-27

The best, modern example is the nation of Israel herself, who is described in Ezekiel 37 as being (during Ezekiel's day) "a valley full of bones". It wasn’t until 1948 that the bones came back together—but it won’t be until Messiah comes that breath (verse 8) will return.

Evil is required to appreciate good, and broken-ness is required to appreciate restoration and redemption.

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