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June 17, 2007

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yitz..

Wouldn't one need to actually understand Parah Adumah in order to talk about it here, as you seem to?

You drew a teaching out of Chazal on the Parah Adumah and proceed to show how this is really what R' Akiva understood better than Mosheh Rabeinu..

isn't that precisely something that is beyond us to do?

avakesh

I, of course, understand very little. Still, "torah hi vlelamdo ani tsorich". If Chazal told us that in some fashion R. Akiva understood something better than Moshe, it is up to us to try to delve into it and get some kind of a grasp, or why tell this yo us at all. It is possible to operate with categories that Chazal leave us without necessarily claiming to understand them fully.

The point I make is that R. Akiva "understood" the concept of "good coming out of bad" in a homiletical sense, through the suffering that he presonally experienced and through his firm belief that all if for the good. What I should have made clearer is that it is the existential "absurdity" (in the sense the existentialists use the term) of this concept that R. Akiva understood through his suffering better than Moshe. Suffering is always a chok. Moshe and Shelomo were not able to understand this particular aspect of what a chok is for they lived in closeness to and security of the Divine whereas R. Akiva, on the basis of his life, did.

There are other chazals that suggest the concept of experiential distance or closeness from God affecting ones experience of faith. F.E., Pesachim 46: Moshe did not (need to)say Baruch shem kavod malchuso even though Yakov did.

yitz..

this sounds very close to a christian principle of faith.. suffering as a more true experience of HaShem/Torah.

I don't think we've yet pierced the matter to its depth..

the connection between Chidushei Basra of

"the difficult laws of parah adumah cannot be assimilated in ease and comfort."

and that of

"The mystery of how the same agent can serve to purify and make unclean, redeem and condemn, elevate and debase is at the core of Parah Adumah. Who had not experienced a tragedy or a disappointment that ultimately lead to profound spiritual growth? The contrary is also true. How often is an apparent stroke of good luck a cause of ultimate loss?"

is tenuous at best.

Something that can be so easily phrased is not (l'aniyut da'ati) something that is beyond Mosheh Rabbeinu's understanding.

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