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June 17, 2007

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yitz..

ben Sirah was "Jesus ben Sirah"?? that looks pretty odd ..

avakesh

Thank you. I can tell that my English is beginning to rub you wrong. Please be assured, it is only chitzonius. I write for the widest possible audience and it is a difficult verbal balancing act to sound heimish to all groups.
Jesus is nothing more than Yehoshua in Greek. Since Ben Sira, until recently (when long fragments wre discoverd in the Cairo geniza), was only known in Greek, that is the usual name used. It has nothing to do with the other person by the same name.
BTW, the New Testament never quotes Ben Sirah.

yitz..

Your english doesn't rub me the wrong way.. I assumed it was a transliteration issue. It's just strange to see a choice not to distance oneself from that particularly "heavy" name.

I personally prefer non-heimish, and appreciate your more academic style; though for myself I try (sometimes unsuccessfully) to write as simply as possible.

David

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DF

Can you clarify something. It is true we never knew Bar Kochba's first name was Shimon until this past century. but you are making a differnet point, that Ben Sirah's first name was only discovered this century? I'm just a little confused. Please clarify, if you don't mind.

avakesh

I think that you are asking whether the Hebrew version gave us Ben Sira's "true name"?
His Hebrew name was always presumed to have been Yehoshua, just like the Septuagint transliterates all "Yehoshua"'s as Jesus (really Jesu). That's just a peculiarity of Greek transliteration.

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